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  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:24 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
I have been in Tasmania since the beginning of December. It is often over crowded, particularly the "free-camps".. Thanks to my full Air Suspension, again I got the best spot to camp. Eve ...
  Topic: Isotherm fridge
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:00 am   Subject: Isotherm fridge
Regarding the Isotherm we have now:
Of ALL the fridges available, and ALL the ones we have used in the past 22 years: This would be one of the most reliable units with the fewest problems...

On a ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:44 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
OK Grumpy,
But I am spoiled and I have a spoilt Wife and we like good regular hot showers, particularly in this cold weather... It is a different level of luxury Grumpy. Big Luxury... Not severe ra ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:57 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
You want to know what features stand out for me, with all the innovations I am trying? Well it is my pleasure to show you.

I have to say, this is the greatest van (for my choices) that I have ever ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:49 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
One more little thing, a must have, is the Forced Air Diesel Heater.. I just thought of it, appreciating it this morning!!

You would not want to be without it. Right now, I thought Tasmania would ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:04 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
This might be my last Post on this van, unless there are questions..

I want to emphasize that size matters. I mean if you want the Mega Land Yacht type of Lifestyle, size of van and size of tow ve ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:07 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Well thank you for your comments Ajay and Fletch, and Rosiebear. If I am not clear on anything or if there is more you want to know, please keep adding in questions or comments...

There are countl ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:56 pm   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
While in Hobart,
I have met up with two Bushtracker Owners. If you need my help for some kind of troubleshooting, or upgrade to ATM, or what ever I can help with:
I will be here in Hobart a couple ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 4:34 pm   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Steve,

With regard to the split power systems, if the systems can be connected together, what is incorporated to ensure the systems are synchronised prior to connection? If one has a generator powe ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:02 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello Friends,
Here is another innovation, a split power system. Like the dual water system of potable and non-potable water, two separate systems. In the case of the water, two pumps, different t ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:58 pm   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello Phil and Di,
Dunno, that is the other extreme. Not sure I want to be in either radical temperature trend.. Laughing

I love the Single Rear Wheel (SRW) Dodge Rams. It is so easy to park up an ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:24 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Cold, 15 degree morning, Merry Christmas!!

Part two, considerations on design of the Mega Land Yacht class..

Something you may not have noticed, is the very large closet above the big washing ma ...
  Topic: Christmas closing dates 2017-18
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:32 pm   Subject: Christmas closing dates 2017-18
Merry Christmas everyone,

From Steven and Leslie in Tasmania.. Don't forget what the Season is about.. Do some random kind act for someone you don't even know..
And make God Smile !!

Home away ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:17 am   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
I will be in Hobart for the next ten days if any of you want to hook up for an Inspection or Diagnostics, advice, or whatever. Contact me at sales@bushtracker.com

I will be in Hobart, for Christm ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:57 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Right OH,
Maybe I will digress into some of the options you have to choose from, IF you are interested in this "Mega Land Yacht" Class free from weight restrictions...

PART ONE, CHOICES ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:59 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello Friends,
Cold and windy down in Hobart... Christmas Eve is forecast to be 9 C and hit a high of 16 C.. That is cold to a Queenslander, very cold. On with the Bushtracker coats!! 15 C right ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:50 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello from Tasmania,
More on some of the equipment and features on this Bushtracker "Mega Yacht".

First of all a few more comments on the Mini-Heki: I really like it. I mean the Fantast ...
  Topic: Anyone Towing with a Nissan Patrol 3L
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:19 pm   Subject: Re: Anyone Towing with a Nissan Patrol 3L
Just wondered if anyone has experience with towing Bushtracker with a 3L Nissan Patrol.

Would appreciate any feedback

Thanks
Brett

Hello Brett, Steven Gibbs here, Director, Bushtracker...
A ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:51 pm   Subject: SIZE MATTERS
Hello Friends,
More you say, well there is a lot more...

The title of this Post is SIZE MATTERS... heh he Wink

Today in "Bay of Fires" Tasmania, we had a heat wave, 29 C maybe 30 ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:08 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Hello Friends,
IF and I say IF you are going to be patient and order a new truck like I did... This is a really nice option. The rear Air Suspension is called a Load Leveler and you can modify it t ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:12 pm   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello Friends,
As a matter of interest, I will continue to show some of the latest gear and innovations in my own "Land Yacht".. Now in "Bay of Fires" Tasmania, doing it tough wi ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:49 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
I will start putting on a few of the details, OK?

First of all, this is one of the ways to use the near side stretch of the van from 21' to 23'. As I described, my Wife wanted the maxi-sized loung ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:08 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
Hello Friends,
from Tasmania...

Here is the basic layout pictures in my own Bushtracker. It is the same sort of format, that is the most popular style of all of our layouts, with many variations. ...
  Topic: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
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PostForum: What SIZE OR TYPE OF BUSHTRACKER?   Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:23 am   Subject: 2018 update, THE DIRECTORS LARGE SIZED LUXURY BUSHTRACKER
This Thread is going to show the extremes of what you can do, the Director's own...

Hello, Steven Gibbs here, Director, Bushtracker, my van is out on the largest size that is practical. I ran a PO ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:45 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Well,
I have to tell you, you forget how nice some of the comforts are with the Dodge Ram... I have a Sahara at home, my Wife likes it for our "town car" that can also go out on the horse ...
  Topic: NEWBIES: Owner writes "60,000 KM, DUST, BRAKES, SERVICE
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:32 am   Subject: NEWBIES: Owner writes "60,000 KM, DUST, BRAKES, SERVICE
Hello Newbies,

Here is a real time Testimonial that speaks to the success of my ethics in the quality offered by Bushtracker. I am leaving in my own 23' Bushtracker for ten weeks, and again in Aug ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:50 am   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
I will be leaving Thursday for a leisurely run down to Melbourne, and can detour or meet up OK?

My Wife needs spinal surgery, is a bit mobility handicapped, so She is going to fly to Melbourne and ...
  Topic: AIR CONDITIONING OF INVERTER AND LITHIUM, THE REAL THING
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PostForum: Tips on OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT SELECTION FOR NEW VANS   Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:31 pm   Subject: AIR CONDITIONING OF INVERTER AND LITHIUM, THE REAL THING
Here is the latest thing on this Lithium powered AC Topic:

First of all on my new truck coming around April, I will have a dual larger charging system that I will unveil. It is just not worth both ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:21 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Well, here is probably the best Testimonial for the Dodge Ram, possible...
Besides more safety, more control, engine braking in manual and automatic modes, less driver fatigue, more leverage on the v ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:20 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Why the Mega Cab? And I am doing it again....

Well, seat up, you have luggage room behind the seats. The Mega Cab seats fold down kind of into the floor. Then I have (3) six inch velour covered ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:19 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Hello Friends,

My new 23' Bushtracker for 2018 is loaded with a new level of innovations. It is running a bit heavy, loaded will be over 4 tons, (6)-150watt solar panels, 600 AH of LIthium batteri ...
  Topic: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:17 pm   Subject: 2016 Dodge Ram SRW MegaCab, upgrade to 2018 Dodge Ram DRW
Hello Friends,

Everything you could want to know about the Dodge Cummins Diesel is in the Topic below The New Adblue Dodge Ram, and the other one Introducing the Dodge Ram below This is just an a ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:55 am   Subject: Re: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
Hi Steve
Thank you for you detailed response, the lovell's up grade was not available when I purchased the car, so be it. I do not want to go down the 4000kg upgrade, I am happy with the 3850 for the ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:07 pm   Subject: Re: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
Hi Steve

Hello, my answers in bold in the context of your questions:

Our caravan is a 20’ new november 2016, rated at 3500kg with simplicity suspension. That would be a 4000 kg suspension, th ...
  Topic: A SAMPLE: THE TYPE OF INNOVATIONS BUSHTRACKER IS FAMOUS FOR
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PostForum: Tips on OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT SELECTION FOR NEW VANS   Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:38 am   Subject: A SAMPLE: THE TYPE OF INNOVATIONS BUSHTRACKER IS FAMOUS FOR
Thank you,

and what Grumpy says above... Probably SEARCH Engine would find this same unit on my last van, but anyway:
I did not answer until now as mine was not here yet. But now it is and my se ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:45 am   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
Thank you for all your kind words
And notes of appreciation to sales@bushtracker.com

However, this is just my "hobby gone mad" and I do not mind lending a hand at all. Really, even trou ...
  Topic: AIR CONDITIONING OF INVERTER AND LITHIUM, THE REAL THING
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PostForum: Tips on OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT SELECTION FOR NEW VANS   Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:10 pm   Subject: AIR CONDITIONING OF INVERTER AND LITHIUM, THE REAL THING
Hello Friends,

I am sorry, I have been too busy to update some of these things, but now I am going to be Semi-Retired, and travel on Expedition a couple of trips a year. I will have more time to k ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:19 am   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
I am leaving for a leisurely jaunt down to Tasmania in about two weeks. You can also take advantage of this by meeting me to get a quote, or diagnostics, or possible troubleshooting...

I don't min ...
  Topic: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 3:08 pm   Subject: Director, Good Will Ambassador, on the road to help...
Hello Friends,

I am going to go down the long way to Melbourne, first week or so in December, and on to Tasmania.

You have to have us actually "Sight" the van in an Inspection for a VI ...
  Topic: Is my bushtracker the first they built?
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:00 pm   Subject: Is my bushtracker the first they built?
Sorry NO... nonsense... Yours would neither be the first, nor the 9001st but something in between... Laughing Laughing

Those Vin Numbers are randomly allocated, not in sequence. Even these days they are ...
  Topic: Hayman Reece Stabiliser
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:23 pm   Subject: Hayman Reece Stabiliser
Sway controls have two problems:

They do not work on our size of Bushtracker vans, and / or they are not offered in Australia. They will not make up for lack of loading the van properly and havin ...
  Topic: Hayman Reece Stabiliser
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:18 am   Subject: Hayman Reece Stabiliser
Yes, Yes, and Yes.....
You are courting disaster without it.

In a extreme accident avoidance maneuver on the highway at 100 kph, when your tow vehicle is stretched to the limit to recover, it give ...
  Topic: Grey Water Tank.
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:27 am   Subject: Grey Water Tank.
I have never had any smells in mine...

Look, to be a bit forensic about this: The smell comes from soap caking up in it and breeding a fungus. If you travel a half an hour with the tank half empt ...
  Topic: Stone Guard
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:57 pm   Subject: Stone Guard
OK, Redway....

I do not know what the problem is or what tow vehicle.. I understand you are having problems posting a picture here, cannot tell you what the problem is without more information..
...
  Topic: Stone Guard
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:55 am   Subject: Stone Guard
Oh and one more thing:

Welcome to the Forum !!! Post Number One!!
  Topic: Stone Guard
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PostForum: GENERAL DISCUSSION   Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:52 am   Subject: Stone Guard
Something is wrong...

You must be a second hand Bushtracker Owner.. ??
This should not happen if you have the correct hitch.... You need the adjustable head unit of the WDH (Weight Distribution H ...
  Topic: Towing with a 79 series Landcruiser
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:21 pm   Subject: Towing with a 79 series Landcruiser
Hello again....

First of all I introduced the larger American trucks to towing Bushtrackers with my F-350 full import, before the Ford Australia trucks imported the Brazilian built Ford with the we ...
  Topic: Testimonials from Owners (please post reply in this topic)
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PostForum: TESTIMONIALS from owners   Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:46 am   Subject: Testimonials from Owners (please post reply in this topic)
Thank you for that Richard,

It is pleasing to me that the Staff I hired and trained, continue to carry on with my ethic for Bushtracker... "In the Owners Best Interests" because it becom ...
  Topic: Towing with a 79 series Landcruiser
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:39 pm   Subject: Towing with a 79 series Landcruiser
Four words for you,
Dodge Cummins Diesel Ram.....

Made for a 6 ton towing job even in the 2500.. Tow Haul Mode splits the gears in the six speed, Engine brake like a Jake Brake in two modes Manu ...
  Topic: TOYOTA 4000kg TOWING CAPACITY WITH HITCH-EZY
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PostForum: Tips on TOW VEHICLES   Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:31 am   Subject: TOYOTA 4000kg TOWING CAPACITY WITH HITCH-EZY
All good PJ,

I only say 75 mm down in the front from new, because the van and suspension will settle in 25 mm. The actual figure, settled in and loaded, is 50 mm down in the front which you can ha ...
 
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