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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: SWB F-350, Super Duty GVM and Only 80 cm longer than Toyota Reply with quote

For those of you that want the large capacity and only a SWB, (Short Wheel Base) to still park around town, there is a new BIG player on the team. The new Ford F-350 SWB is only 5860 mm long. Now I just measured my own 200 Series, and it measured 5060 mm, so for only 80 cm you get a massive 350 Hp, International 6.4 V-8 Twin Turbo Diesel with a massive payload. For those of you that want the Gull Wing Canopy rig, boat loader, boat, motor, and the rest like these that would be over loaded on Silverado 2500 HD and the Brazilian built Ford F-250: Typically, Rigs like this are way over their GVM, sometimes even before they are loaded, and this is wrong and financially dangerous as they are Illegal Motor Vehicles...



Lovely Rigs, nice job, nice toys, but they are over the GVM of a normal Silverado 2500 HD or Brazilian F-250, both at 4177 kg GVM. Now you can do it and still stay in a Single Rear Wheel (SRW) Rig, even in a Short Wheel Base (SWB) if you want to drive it around town...

There is now a new Player, the F-350 Short Wheel Base (SWR) only 800mm longer than a 200 Series Toyota. Here are pictures of a few of them in Australia now:



You can still have a back seat, these SWB F-350s have a reverse opening door, and bench seat behind in the SuperCab...



Interiors vary in colour and style, and you can have a 5 seat or a 6 seat now.



And you can of course have the Super Duty F-350 in a LWB (Long Wheel Base) full Crew Cab if you like.. This below is still a Short Wheel Base, short bed, a little longer but about the same as a Silverado 2500 HD or the Brazilian Ford, only in the F-350 Super Duty F-350 SRW it has almost a long ton more capacity GVM...




Why am I showing you this? It is a very viable alternative to an overloaded Silverado or Brazilian built Ford F-250 base. It is the same size but higher capacity and still only SRW, you do not have to go to a Dually. And if you want a boat, and motor, and fridge, and tools on a Toyota because it is easy to park when you come back to the City? Forget it, you will be over your GVM.. At only 80 cm longer than a Toyota, I challenge that anywhere you can put a Toyota, you could park one of theses SWB SRW (SRW Single Rear Wheel) F-350 Super Duty SuperCabs. OK, once in while you have to back into a short Mall parking space, and hang your rear end over the curb. I find that the best way to park these anyway, is to pull forward and back into the spot. Trust me, a little practice and you can do it quite easily OK?

These F-350 Super Duty SRW, carry almost a long Ton more than a Silverado 2500 HD, or the Brazilian Built Fords. They also have a coil front end, tight turning radius, and just as much practical luxury as either, only a lot more capacity. I get nothing out of this, but discovered the new Fords to solve my problem with my own overloaded Silverado, and I see too many of you in here at Bushtracker with your vehicles over your GVM. That could mean total cancellation of insurance in a serious accident, as it is an illegal motor vehicle= No Insurance. It is horses for courses. If you want a Dually for the better handling and safety, good on you, a like the feel of a Dually myself and my new F-450 is obviously a Dually (Dual Rear Wheels or DRW)... This is just an alternative for those of you that want to stay in a SRW, but still want all the toys like the pictures at the top of this post. Get the right horse for the job is the lone Rangers best advice and you would do well to listen here. Global pressure on Insurance Companies is forcing them to start cracking down. If you are not below your legal GVM, you HAVE NO INSURANCE..

No, I don’t get any commission or sell these vehicles... I am just bringing a possibility to your attention, of a new category of tow vehicle now available in the 09 and 10 F-250 and F-350 Super Duty, with larger capacity GVM and capability.. I am trying to look after you. I switched to my new F-450 for PRECISELY THESE LEGAL REASONS. Wink My Gooseneck Horsefloat can weigh over 7 metric tons with four horses on board and 21' of luxury accommodation in the front. There is obviously no Silverado up to a GCM over 11 Tons, so while I could have maxed out an F-350, and F-450 Super Duty is doing the job with ease with a GCM of 33,000 lbs, 14,963 kg, and a GVM of 6577 kg, I will be running at about 70% of capacity.

I have more pictures, more models, more interiors, but you get the idea. I was just not sure any of you realized that the new F-350 Super Duty, comes not only in Single Rear Wheels, and Short Wheel Base, but also in a cut down CrewCab called a SuperCab with a rear bench seat that is not much bigger than a Toyota 200 Series...





If you want all the toys, think about the GVM and GCM of the your vehicle selection. This advice is for your own good. Cancellation of your Insurance for Illegal Motor Vehicle could wipe you out in an accident. Struth! It is my job to try and look after you. I have seen gull wing canopies, with boat on top, boat loader, freezer and motor in the canopy, loaded with extra of everything and they went up to 5.5 to 6 Tons !!! With the Global Financial Crisis, (GFC) Insurance Companies are going to push to crack down on this GVM busines for good reasons. And if you are in Court you have NO DEFENCE as all they have to say is: "If you had not been overloaded you would have been able to avoid the accident or stop in time". There is no defence for that.

I had to do all this research, because I was up against the wall myself with my lovely little luxury car Silverado Dually 3500 HD. It only had the same GVM of a an F-350 Single Rear Wheel, of 5171 kg. With my big Gooseneck hooked up I was marginal at best on GVM, and GCM. Hence here is Big Bubba, my new F-450 coming in weeks: King Ranch LWB (Long Wheel Base) and DRW.. Ten Stud Truck wheels, big Diff, big Brakes: King Ranch on the left, and here is a Pueblo Gold Lariat on the right.. These two are shown just for fun, and are far more than most Bushtracker Owners would need, 8' bed, DRW, LWB, CC (Crew Cab) at a whopping 6,577 kg GVM, and a massive almost 15 Ton GCM..

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well here is what we are up against....

Another one in here today, no doubt overloaded. If this is the kind of rig you want with all the toys and storage and tankage, then you should get something with more GVM than a 2500 HD Silverado. It just does not have the payload capability. The Silverado 2500 HD is just a bit more of a car, this one even looks overloaded sagging a bit in the rear..



If you are going to load one up like this: You need to think about something like the F-250 SRW the same size truck with 359 kg more GVM at something like 4536 kg. Or, you can go right up to the F-350 SRW, again the same size of truck, but it can go up to 5171 GVM.... A long ton more... It is the same size truck, just a monobeam front axle and higher payload, and a bit more heavy duty.



And it is not just the GVM and Luxury, the 4x4 front end of the Silverado on the left, vrs the monobeam front axle the Ford on the right... The Silverado appears to be on a car style chassis and front end, where the Super Duty Ford is on a truck style chassis and front end. Same luxury or better, but the Super Duty Fords have less exposed bits in a more durable front drive axle assembly.. Even if you reinforce the tie rod ends like the picture shows for the Silverado, there is still a lot of exposed rubber and struts and such...



Silverado car style front end.........................................................Ford 4x4 Super Duty truck style front end...

My point is have a look under and see why the Fords have the GVM they do. Everything just appears to be stronger.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone has just called in and ask if these trucks are in Australia and yes they are.. I am not involved in sales of the trucks, but after much research they are the ones supplying my F-450. I bought my white F-350 King Ranch years ago, on the first Bushtracker DVD, from the same people. You can contact them by phone or on this website at

http://www.americanperformance.com.au/

They are good to deal with, and I have owned three of their trucks with no major problems. The trucks are only ordered with the higher GVM, these are F-350 SRW (Single Rear Wheel) here in Australia.

2009 4x4 F350 Supercab 'Lariat' 158" Wheelbase 8ft Box - 5170kg GVM
2009 4x4 F350 Supercab 'Lariat' 142" Wheelbase 6.75ft Box - 5080kg GVM

If you want to really load one up, with a large metal canopy, chassis mount or bed mount, boat loader, and all the rest like some of you are doing: You need to consider the GVM of 5 ton as sort of a minimum IMO when you load it up.

You want to stay Legal. A Dually is great, and I am getting a new one in a DRW, but you don't HAVE to as these SRWs will get the job done.. OK?

Best regards, and stay safe out there (and under your max GVM)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BIG NEWS:

I am going to be able to offer some Tech Support up here at Bushtracker.
I will stock a few minor bits (Forum Owners in America think there is little to stock, as most Emissions Controls bugs were worked out in the 07-08 models and the 09 and m.y.10 are very good)... I am also getting set up in VCM/IDS (Vehicle Communications Module/ Integrated Diagnostic Scanner) VCM/IDS and Laptop... Here at Bushtracker... Wink Why? Well, first of all, I want to be able to take care of my own truck as an Enthusiast.... Secondly, they are in Melbourne, 2200 kms away, and I want to be able to run Diagnostics for a hiccup here in Queensland. Cool eh? Cool Further, as many as 30-40% of the Brazilian Fords and the Silverados and GMCs that come in here are overloaded past their GVM. In taking care of you, my hobby, I want to encourage those that have the big gull wing canopy toy haulers to get into the proper GVM size of vehicle to suit the job. OK? This is precisely why I am getting my F-450, GVM and GCM to suit the job. In my case the F-450 extreme is because of my GVM requirements of weight carrying capacity loaded with tools and tanks and down load hooked up when towing 7 Ton of Gooseneck horse float..

Now how do they have a bigger GVM and Towing Capacity in each class? Here are just a few examples that I have seen:
Massively larger steering arms and Tie Rod all the way to the Tie Rod ends..
Much larger bearing hub to King Pin style bearings.
Rigid Monobeam front axle, with tight turning radius and on coil springs
Larger bolts in rear spring hangers and 3" wide long leaf springs in the rear.
Larger bolts to bolt down beds,
Much larger tail shafts
Massively larger control arms on front suspension.
Powder Coated (Electro Coat) hard coating on larger chassis
And much more, in all, this is just heavier equipment. IMO this is the difference: Instead of a luxury cab on a car chassis and running gear, this is a Luxury Cab on truck sized gear.

Several people have contacted me regarding the source of these trucks, and if you want the gull wing canopy style and all the toys and gear, maybe boat and loader and the rest? Give these a look for a higher GVM:

Stewart Angove
American Performance
378a Barry Road, Coolaroo
Victoria 3048
‘Your Australian F Series Specialists’

www.americanperformance.com.au
Dir: 03 93570226
Fax: 03 93570230
Mob: 0439 357005
email: stewart.a@americanperformance.com.au

And the F-450 I am getting is just absolutely awesome in capability. Here is a 150,000 MILE road test towing an 18,000 lb Gooseneck, all over 49 States of America, 7 Provinces of Canada, and to Alaska on the trans Canada highway. Other than a computer reflash (update) which I will be able to do myself, in 240,000 kms all they had was a flat tyre and the front end knocked out of alignment on the way to Alaska... Interesting 5 minute video. Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1ysgy_kL0

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loki,
You ask about the noise level, and how it compares with the 200 Series that you own. I gave you an answer, but on second thought I thought maybe I owed you a more in depth answer rather than just my feel for it. Last night I drove both my 200 Series and the F-450, and of course I drove the F-450 this morning, and here is a more emperical answer:

When you stretch the legs of the 200 Series, to get out front of the traffic in town, with the air conditioning off, you can hear that great V-8 "diesel rattle" sort of V-8 rumble, as you go from 20-60 kph for instance. It is not obtrusive, and you would notice it much with the AC on.. At 100 kph, you would hardly notice the motor, tyre hum and wind noise, are about the same level as the motor.

Well this new 6.4 Twin Turbo Ford, out since 08, is about the same noise level. Maybe at the low end, same getting out in front of traffic and a little romp it is a tad more engine V-8 "rumble". But this is only marginal at best, with the AC on I don't think you would hardly notice it. At cruising speed, it is the same as the 200 Series LC, very quiet.

In fact, what is a little annoying, is that because a lot of people like that V-8 sound, and Ford Diesels of the past have had it, the stereo is made to turn up the volume automatically as you go up in speed. It also turns the volume back down a notch when you get back to town speeds. Unlike the past engines, with this new 6.4, it is totally unnecessary... Wink Luckily the volume controls are on the steering wheel and so it is not a problem. Anyway, a more empirical scientific listen, and immediate comparo: They are both amazingly quiet.

On another Post, I talk about some of the "User Friendly" aspects of these new Fords, more of fuction AND looks, like the double over and under pockets on the doors, and the strong monobeam front end, and major steering crisp strength and feel, and the grill lifting with the bonnet like a Big Rig to clean the coolers and radiator. There are quite a number of pleasant surprises on this vehicle, that make me say you should check out the myriad of features if you are in the market for a vehicle this size.. Yes there are all the common toys, climate cotrols in zones, power in and out and power folding mirrors, and touch screen stereo and voice activated selections, and jukebox to down load your favourites off of CDs, and Bluetooth, and a lot more... But here is a standout: Even the back up camera is again more User Friendly. Not only does the back up perimeter alarms work with our big hitch in place where none others seem to, but there are range finders in the screen on the dash, and the camera is a fish eye that looks down and out at the same time:



You can actually drive the pin to the hitch, side to side and depth perception is superior. And this is the first truck that the perimeter alarm function actually worked with the hitch in place... Here is a better picture:



These little things add up, to not only quality, strength, toys, but also some really functional User Friendly designs that work better. The more I use it, the more I am impressed.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Steve, it sounds (or should that be "doesn't sound") really good.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loki, the engine is now loosening up, and you get a little more diesel rattle on acceleration.... Expecially when towing. But I have to tell you, for sure, my new Super Duty Ford is the absolute finest tow vehicle and luxury vehicle I have ever owned. The luxury items are set up to be the most "User Friendly" and the wide stance and tighter turning radius than any other tow vehicle in its class, make for a real pleasure to drive... In the past 15 years I have owned 4 Fords, and 2 Silverados a 2008 and 2009, doing Research and Development for you. And Bushtracker has also had two Dodge Cummins.... And this new Super Duty Ford stands a full head and shoulders over them. This is THE top tow vehicle in Australia for larger vans or higher GVM payloads of canopies and boats.

Some of the features like heated, power, power extending, and power folding mirrors, have to be used to be appreciated to the fullest. Voice over touch screen or buttons, higher GVM, and all the other features add up to make this the top Tow Vehicle in Australia. The feel is absolutely awesome to drive. Here is mine, bought for luxury, bought for the tightest turning ratio, bought for pure enjoyment, but most of all bought for GVM capability..



And this GVM issue is still getting worse. Here is another one. This is one of the neatest most well built alloy canopies I have ever seen... It is gull winged and organized beautifully. But it also appears (obviously to me) over the limits of the Brazillian built Ford at 4177 kg. The SAME truck size in the SRW F-350 would have a LONG TON more GVM and ten times the luxury, and a coil front end, and the top transmission in a tow vehicle in the world; in the new Super Duty Ford. It is the right canopy, but unfortunately the wrong truck. If he can afford to swap it over, I would bet the canopy would fit the new Super Duty in the short wheelbase as shown in the above posts.

But in my opinion this has the appearance of being over the GVM and an Accident Assessor might pick that:



He has the right canopy, but on the wrong truck with the coming of these new Super Duty Fords... Lovely Rig, don't get me wrong, but over the GVM could spell disaster.

Bushtracker Owners, I do not sell these trucks. I do not make any commission for the sales of these trucks. Take it to heart, this information is put here "In Your Best Interests"..... I am trying to look after you.. Both the Brazilian Built Ford F-250 and the Silverado 2500 HD, have a low GVM of 4177 kg. If you are going with a full canopy and boat loader and the rest, you owe it to yourselves to go see the new Super Duty Fords, I can assure you, mine is pure LOVE....

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am up and running with my new F-450. There is a Topic here just on its features and I have to say I continue to be impressed. I have added a 6kva Diesel electric start genset that I have a couple of on the horse property, new batteries, solar and regulator, extended power ramp, water purification, a 4 ton lifting power down leg to disconnect, and a lot of other gear. Here She sits at a weighed 10.68 tons without horses on board:



I have it tuned now with SPARTAN, and the 5R110 transmission in these is so strong it will take a 210HP tune called 210 Tow Performance. I have just run around feathering the accelerator, and am getting 21 litres/100 at 10.68 tons and that might be a record. The engine is not even run in yet, and the fuel economy beats the Silverado 3500 HD that ran loaded at the end of its capability at the same rate. I am running better fuel economy, better performance, better control on the highway, and have 4 tons of GCM more capacity than I had with the Silverado 3500 HD Dually.



in the left hand picture avove, I have the screen to monitor the horses at the bottom, and that "T" handle near my left knee is the Panic button joy stick for the air brakes on the trailer to pull on in a panic if the Gooseneck started to jack knife in ice or gravel. Up in the middle is the Super Duty screen that is multifunctional with back up camera, and reading your phone and phone book and jukebox and stereo and more... The DashDAQ is suction cup mounted on top of the dash for now... In the right hand picture: The scroll buttons give more of about 20 choices in performance data and gauge choices. I have left it here for starters. The big gauge in the middle is MOST important on a long grade, you do not run to power as I have 560 Horse Power now, you feather the accelerator and run to a maximum EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature). However, you can hardly go wrong as the program will defuel itself if it approaches saftey limits. The gauge on the left is engine coolant temperature ECT and on the right is engine oil temperature EOT. The fords have a transmission oil temperature gauge as one of those small gauges up top on the dash...

And wow, some of these features are so good to live with. I recommend the Heated, Power in, Power out, Power folding mirrors as TOP GEAR... Also the Blue Tooth that pulls the phone directory from your mobile and puts it on the screen, the Juke Box that saves you favorites, touch screen and voice activated, fish eye back up camera, all these little things add up for driving convenience and fun. I won't bore you with all the luxury features, as the Engineering is the most important part. What is AWESOME is the tighter turning radius and wide front end that gives huge stability, and of course the higher GVM, and the little things like the grill lifting with the bonnet to clean coolers and such. These are the top tow vehicles in the world in this Class, for very good reasons... More luxury, better looks IMO, but most of all better capability in GVM and GCM.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have my atention that is the diesel rate I am running with my Lancruiser at half your size pulling my bushtracker aroun. pretty impresive and I dont mind the look of them. we think Landcruiser Australian and that yank tank but after all it is japanese. Good on ya, if you can afford it I can see the why of it but I retired early to roam and might hav to stick with the 100 series cruiser. Better go get my lotto ticket Laughing might get on yet

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In all fairness, in a 20' Bushtracker, if you are not travelling heavy with a boat and motor and such, it is hard to make a case beyond the Landcruiser GXL in either the 100 Series or 200 Series. Is something like the Ford better? Absolutely, better on fuel, better for power, better for brakes, better for control and high speed, better for safety, less driver fatigue, yes it is better but in that size of van. However: I would have to say it is certainly not necessary, a 100 Series does the job just fine.

This is more of a luxury issue in that size of van. Now if a larger van, or boat and motor, or you want a big gull wing canopy full of toys and gear? Then that tips the scale for sure in favour of the top tow vehicle in its class. But really, in a 20' van it is not necessary. Now if you said you were going to spend $125,000 on a Sahara, or $150,000 on a Range Rover, that is another reason to go the Ford as it has all luxury and all the toys and more power and safety for the same money. But again, if your needs are simple, and you are not travelling heavy or wanting a quad bike or big canopy or boat and such then it is hard to justify the money..

In my case, I just towed with a GCM of about 12.7 tons, loaded, four horses and tack on board, and even got stuck: Caught through 50 lights of Brisbane as I missed my Ipswitch motorway turn off, and I still got fabulous fuel consumption and power to spare. That and I got caught in flooded country behind Elimba and had some backing and filling and slow work. With all of that, hills to and from Gatton, 12.7 tons, and I still got 22.8 litres/100 k for the trip. That might be a record for what I did. For my use, I can justify the use of the truck. And to be fair, it is THE nicest and most safety and control and luxury in any rig I have ever owned..

But for easy needs, a 20'van, not travelling heavy, it is hard to go past a good 100 Series for about 1/3 the cost of my F-450. CERTAINLY!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be a lot of upsides in the F Series, but I was wondering what are the downsides. I assume one is you need to find a bigger parking spot! But what are the others? Less turning circle than a cruiser? Harder to reverse the van? Service issues? Their off road ability compared to the cruiser. Parts availability etc. I am currently looking for a new tow vehicle and would like the “warts and all” story.

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Hello Les and Pam,
I am probably most qualified to answer this as I have owned four Fords and two Silverados, and have three Landcruisers in the Stables as we speak... I think I can give you a very fair and balanced view of this:

Of course it is going to be harder to park in the city... But you get used to it. I drive mine ALL the time. Mine is the LWB (Long Wheel Base) and a DRW Dually. Look, once in a while I back it over the parking bump stop and hang the rear over the sidewalk or gardens. But you get used to it. And of course the Landcruiser turns tighter, but again, you learn to adapt and swing a little wider or do a three point turn. This is not the major issue.

The question really comes down to size of Bushtracker involved, and your home base. If you are under 20-21', and are coming back to the city, then of course it is slanted in the Landcruisers favour. But if this is the big travel time around Australia, with a big van, and you are not coming back to the city? The Ford is probably TWICE as capable and TWICE as safe on the highway at high speed, and can carry FOUR times the payload.

On Service, if something goes wrong? Of course Service is easier Australia wide with a Landcruiser. However, if you carry a few spares, if you are handy, if you download the Engine Bible, if you familiarize yourself with the engine and locations of sensors, and if you get a code reader then I think it is very manageable. The truth is you should have that same type of Code Reader for the Landcruiser as well, and there are Topics on this in this Category. Also, VDC / American Performance, are willing to fly someone out at the drop of a hat to take care of any trouble shooting. I have 960 Posting on the Ford Forums doing research, and can help you myself with guidelines of care. In the last 85 of these late model Fords delivered, the troubles are very few. It might be about the same level as problems with the 200 Series which is less than perfect itself.

So, you are running blind on this, but I can give you some self evident guidelines: Smaller van, coming back to the City, don't want a lot of toys or boats and motors and such? Toyota... On the other hand, larger van, want toys, not coming back to the City to live, then the Super Duty F-Series is TWICE as strong and TWICE as safe on the road, and the difference with a larger van could save your Life...

Parts and availability? The maintenance parts are about the same price, but if you Register with the PowerStrokeShop.com and get things flown in by Air Mail from America in three days like I have done.... Then I think the Ford gear cheaper by half... There is a Topic on this in this section.

Weaknesses in the Engines? About the only real liability is both are sensitive to water in the fuel and it can cost both dearly. That is about the biggest issue so be careful about maintenance and good fuel. Personally on my engine study, I think the Super Duty engine wins hands down. There are no main bearing caps, the engine is split and has a "Bed Plate" lower half of the engine that holds the Main Bearings on the Crank and that design is incredibly strong. The lower end, crankshaft, connecting rods, have all proven VERY strong in the 6.4 PSD, all the way to the record holder on the Drag Strip at 900 HP. Toyota on the other had has done some dumb things in my opinion with regards to engine design to take away maintenance from the Citizen. For instance the starter is under the valley pan between the heads down in the center of the engine.. Something like six hours to access it? Ridiculous. Even Toyota says it is a luxury car and not their Outback vehicle, and in the engine I again would give the Ford Super Duty the edge.

Fair Dinkum, I own both, I do the R&D with REAL TIME hands on testing and living with them both. This is more science than opinion, and I really own them and use them and maintain them and live with them... I hope this is a help to you. Did I cover all aspects that concerned you?

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The exciting release of the new Ford Super Duty, with the 6.7 and 6 speed has just happened today. This is the WORLDS top truck and specs.

It leap frogs the Chevrolet and Dodge in just about everything, but don't take my word for it, before you spend your hard earned money go see it for yourself.. I think you will be really impressed...

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/02/ford-announces-2011-super-duty-engine-power-towing-and-hauling-numbers.html

More User Friendly features, one tough truck, I have a topic on some of the features in the Topic TIPS ON TOW VEHICLES.. Have a look...

Here is another Release from another source, and even the F-350 beats the Chevy and Dodge in every category towing 21,500 lbs, where the F-450 is in a class of its own towing 24,500 lbs with an enormous GCM.... Have a read of this one:

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/25/2011-ford-super-duty-power-towing-specs-released/

Mine is still being advanced, getting an air bags over suspension for adjustable ride hooked up towing the big rig, and bull bar and winch, and more.
Cheers, LOVE my truck, I surely do. It is a pleasure to drive EVERY DAY!!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve tell me how you find the steering on the Ford's compared to the Chev/GMC's

I recently drove a GMC Sierra 2500 which as you know is the equivalent to the Silverado, i found the steering to be very vague and wishy washy feeling in the straight ahead position, to make a slight deviation it felt like i was turning the steering wheel more than neccesary [if you understand me]

Another owner of a GMC told me that the power steering almost becomes non existant if your on the brakes and coming into a corner and that's just the way they are.

Other Chev / GMC / new Ford owners, i'd be interested in your thought's also.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick,
I have owned two of the Silverados, and I found the steering to be just fine. It is a bit like a car, but I cannot recall any real problems. I do feel the F-450 steering to be superior, all the ball joints and steering arms bigger, and the feel more positive on the road.

About the only complaint I have on the Silverados, is it seemed after two attempts that the camber was not quite right and it did want to drift off to the left. But I really have no complaints. The Super Duty does feel more positive, tracking and feel wise, and the wider stance makes for the tightest turning ratio in its class. Myself, if I were you, I would go drive the size you are thinking of and get the feel for yourself. So far three Bushtracker Owners have bought the new Super Duty, and another half dozen are indicating interest.

Overall, I think you will find the Ford more of a heavy duty tight feeling vehicle in all handling and equipment aspects. The Silverado 3500 HD was just a bit plastic, plasic big bumper sections, light rear bumper a shopping car dented, fancy looking wheels that turned out to be plastic wheel covers even though they were listed as alloys on the Chevrolet Site. The Site was not changed until after I picked up my truck... Overall, the look, feel, size of equipment, steering size, Tie Rod, instruments, doors, pockets, driveline, front control arms, chassis, bed bolts, entire front 4x4 drive section, everything is much heavier duty and positive control feeling in my Ford. But that does not matter much to you, as you are likely looking F-250 or F-350 SRW (Single Rear Wheel). I revert back to my earlier advice and say: You need to sit in one yourself.

I will say that IMO, if the truck lots were side by side, the Super Duty F Series would out sell the Silverado or GMC two to one, just like in the rest of the world. One is a Gentlemens town and country car with a pickup body, the other is the real working tough vehicle. Now they both have the same level of comfort and luxury and toys but even in that Department I think Ford has the edge on toys and comfort as well...

I am only going through all this work here to highlight them, because too many Owners are overloading the GVM / GCM of their Cherolet/ GMC/ Silverado, and if they are going to put one to work they should see the stronger version in the Super Duty Ford... Like I have said, Australia has a poor opinion of the Worlds Number One truck only because they have not had the real ones here...

Cheers, hope I am of help
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, i can really only afford to be in the looking stage at present, the SWB F350 with the smaller rear seat interests me, with a turning circle of 42' [12.8mt] and big payload & GVM it would be the vehicle that suits any BT upgrade we do in the future.

With American Performance too far away to just check things out i might hit you for a demo drive in your's as we will be based in Sunshine Coast for a couple of months.

Quick photoshop of what my F350SWB would look like.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Bushtracker Owners and those soon to be....
American Performance has just written me:
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Just another quick one for you.

We have just come to an agreement with the NRMA to provide a full 'Premium' 24/7 roadside assistance package on our trucks.They are the only ones in the country to offer this service on vehicles that have the GVM & Size etc that our trucks have.It is Australia & Tasmania wide.

We will be including this from this week on all our trucks and it runs for 3 years with the option for the customer to extend it once the 3 year period has expired.The name of the package we are including is BusinessWise Light Commercial Absolute, I have attached some info for you to
read thru.


Regards...

Stewart Angove
American Performance
378a Barry Road, Coolaroo
Victoria 3048
‘Your Australian F Series Specialists’

www.americanperformance.com.au
Dir: 03 93570226
Fax: 03 93570230
Mob: 0439 357005
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Monday I will try and put up a Link to the NRMA Pamphlet, but this really good, roadside assistance for the Fords. As it is they back up their Product and are willing to fly out a Specialist or work with a Local Shop it there is a problem, but this goes that one step futher...

Right now I am getting ready to be on the road with horses to an event, loading at about 4:30 AM... Yea, you know I am crazy, but I would not trust my horses with anything less than the capabilities of my F-450 Super Duty. Per the information in the previous Posts, this vehicle fills the gap with my Mack (now gone) and is the most capable 4x4 tow vehicle I have ever driven. Really, I don't sell them, I don't get a commission, this is just how it is...

Cheers, and on the road with the Ranger
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you would know, as well as the Fords, I have owned a 2008 2500 HD Silverado Crew Cab 4x4 and a 2009 3500 HD Dually. For the reasons of heavier towing capability, and heavier suspension and chassis and body strengh with the same luxury, I have switched back to Fords for myself.

I am still a Member of the Silverado Forums. Look, they have their place, and I would label it a "Town and Country Gentlemens Car". It is just a case of the Ford Super Duty full Import being a much tougher vehicle in every aspect if you look at what is under the body. The Ford Transmission gets higher ratings and will take higher horsepower, the running gear looks larger and stronger, suspension components all the way to bed bolts are all larger and that is why the Fords are rated higher in towing capacity.

Anyway, they are both playing the numbers game on claiming higher horsepower and torque and this depends on where and how you measure it and is ONLY Marketing gimmickry. [b]This is really no relation to towing ability. Interestingly here is a copy of the Headline the Silverado Forum itself sent me:[/b]
"Chevy Silverado HD Tops Ford F-Series Super Duty With Power, But Not Capability." But then they go on to say "Those numbers don’t tell the whole story, however, as the new truck still follows behind the Ford in payload and towing capability. The new Duramax Silverado HD can tow up to 20,000 lbs and has a payload rating of 6,335 lbs. The F-Series Super Duty is rated at 21,600 lbs and a payload rating of 6,520 lbs." Nuff said...

An important side note: The F-350 Dually, yes, is better than the Silverado 3500 HD. However the F-450 is about 30%-40% better yet for not much more money and it has that new wider front end with MASSIVE highway stability. The Dealer in Melbourne feels that if you are going to a large Dually, the F-350 is almost obsolete, why not go all the way as it has the same or better ride, but wider frontend control and tight turning radius in the F-450.

But now, back to the Single Rear Wheel model F-350 that this Thread is about: I still say, look under them both, and the Silverado talks to you and says "car" where the Super Duty says "truck". Why my concern? ]Almost half in my estimation of the Silverado Owners are running illegal and over their GVM and this means NO INSURANCE if they get into a wreck... Illegal Motor Vehicle, has no defense in Court against "If you had been under your legal maximum weight, you could have avoided the accident or stopped in time".... Wink

Look, I am not selling Fords, I get no commission, this is in "Your Best Interests" .. Get Horses for Courses, and look for yourself at them both, both have the luxury, but slide underneath and compare. By the way, the latest fuel economy reports are out of this world for the new 6.7 Ford Diesel coming out next month in America. There is a Topic on this, and it is worth following as it appears they will take an astounding lead. Interestingly, Volvo Trucks and others are using the same Urea exhaust cleaning system instead of dumping diesel..

I am happy with my F-450, and believe it to be the top most capable tow vehicle in Australia...



This is 7-8 tons of 31' Gooseneck (with horses on board) with bus cargo bays underneath, and it does is without stress and with 30% more capacity yet... They do not even make a Silverado that will do this, and I think it does it better anyway.. Here is a more appropriate perspective, this IS a little Big Rig...







Have a look and decide for yourself...



Kind Regards to all,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a Bushtracker Owner picking up his Bushtracker today with a new F-350 SRW (Single Rear Wheel)



According to the Owner, he looked at the Silverado 2500HD that everyone was pushing him to, but it would just not do the job. In this same size SRW, this Super Duty full Import carries 1000 kg more, and half the Silverados are overloaded, illegal vehicles, which means NO INSURANCE... His Ford has a GVM of 5177, 1000 kg more than the Silverado and the same size truck to park. He would have to go a 3500 HD Dually and his Wife says "NO WAY".... Wink

He calculated he could not even load the drawers in his canopy and be legal with the Silverado..

If you look under the front end of a Silverado 2500 HD, you can see why it is a luxury car with a ute body, vrs the Ford front end on the right...



Silverado 2500 HD on the left, and then with 1000 kg more GVM and load carry capacity the Ford is on the right. Pretty easy to tell which one you want if you are going to carry much of anything OK?

Regards, just looking after your best interests, as about half of the Silverado 2500 HDs I see are overloaded and illegal vehicles, which means NO INSURANCE..!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Friends,

Here is a GOOD DEAL, a runout on Model Year 2010 Single Rear Wheel SRW, Crew Cab CC, 4x4 Super Duty at over 10% off...

These are going to go out for $120 plus GST, for about the same price as a Sahara, you can get twice the vehicle with the same comfort... Here is a copy of what was sent to me:

Hi Steve

Thankyou for this.
1 x Oxford White with Camel Leather - 6 seater
1 x Tuxedo Black with Camel Leather - 6 seater
1 x Oxford White with an Ingot Silver Accent with Stone Leather - 5 Seater

MY10 F-350 'Lariat' Crewcab Pickup 4x4 - 6.4ltr twin turbo V8 diesel & 5 speed auto.

The towing/carrying credentials of this vehicle cannot be matched by any key competitor in its class. A massive 350HP & 884nm Torque......enough power to pull a locamotive!

Fully optioned with all factory extras:

Some of the standard & optional extras included in this package are as follows:

- 3 Year Bumper To Bumper New Vehicle Warranty & Support
- 3 Year 24/7 Premium Roadside Assistance Package
- Factory Integrated Electric Trailer Brake System
- Electric Telescopic Trailer Tow Mirrors
- Conventional Tow Rating of 5670kg
- Gross Combined Mass of 10433kg
- 200 AMP Heavy Duty Alternator
- Gross Vehicle Mass of 5171kg
- Electric Sliding Rear Window
- Blue Tooth (Voice Activated)
- 5th Wheel Rating of 6940kg
- Dual Zone Climate Control
- Huge Payload of 1563kg
- Fold out steel loadfloor
- All Weather Floor Mats
- Premium Sound System
- Stowable Bed Extender
- Heaps Of Cup Holders
- Electric Fold Mirrors
- iPod port with USB
- Chrome Side Steps
- Electric Windows
- 6.75' Pick Up Box
- Tailgate extender
- Upfitter Switches
- Traction Control
- Reverse Sensors
- Reverse Camera
- Leather Interior
- 4x4 On The Fly
- Cruise Control
- F&R Mudflaps
- Chrome Pack
- Heated Seats
- Tailgate Step
- Moonroof
- FX4 Pack
- 20" Rims
- 3.55 LSD
- Tubliner
- A.B.S

Thank Steve, if you need any other info don't hesitate in letting me know.We are offering them to
people for $120,000ex gst.



“Your F-Series specialists”

Contact Stewart at American Performance
380 Barry Road, Coolaroo, Vic 3048
Ph: (03) 9357 0226
Fax: (03) 9357 0230
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: F-350 2010 model vs 2011 Reply with quote

Does anyone out there have any experience or opinion on the new model vs the older ( 2010 F-350 OR 2011 F350). We are looking at both models. We have no experience with either vehicle.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter and Karen,

There are hardly any of the new 6.7 engine Fords running here yet.. They have only been out for about a year and not complianced here until recently.. You will have to go to the American Forums to find out their opinions on this.. And it will take some reading..

Go to the Ford Forum, powerstrokeforum.com and here is the specific section on the 6.7 out now for about a year..

http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/general-6-7-discussion/

Go there, and you can navigate around, but that is the general discussion area..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am still a Fan of the 6.4 engine... I would not turn one down in favour of the 6.7 for many reasons. On the PowerStroke Forum on a Thread talking about high miles on this Engine, the last five Posts report very good Service Records on four out of five.. The one in five, sounds like he did not keep up with service on the water separator and blew the engine with water in the fuel. They comment:

w one on CL in dallas that had 192k on it. and it was a 2008

165,000 miles on my 2008 6.4 King Ranch 4x4. Only problems so far was a faulty exhaust sensor ford fixed at their expense and on my 3rd radiator (New, 40,000 and 160,000). Ford bought the first two radiators third cost me $1,200. Changing oil every 10,000 miles and fuel filters every other oil change.

176,000 on the 08 i just bought and its bone stock

i just put a injection pump on a 08 King Ranch with 168,000 miles on it.

I just hit 187,k onmy 08' went through a dpf problem an about to have to do the original batterys the truck pulls as hard as ever an starts like a champ everytime.


I have decided to keep mine as long as I need a big Horse Truck to pull with Air Brake capability and still drive like a luxury car... These reports are on the early 6.4s that had a faulty radiator on some, and a few other minor development problems. From 09 on they were greatly improved, and the later ones about the age of mine seem to have been improved even more.. The PSD Forum reports indicate this 6.4 PSD seems to respond to good care, and only have major problems if you feed it bad fuel.. Mine is March 09 build, Dec 09 on road 31,000 kms... Doing awesome, and the reports above are in miles, these reports are about 250,000 to 300,000 kms and that looks like about 10+ years for me... I will stick with a good thing, just like Bushtracker...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For larger vans, some of you might find this interesting, on the new Fords.

American Performance Fuel Economy Test

During August Jim Cody from American Performance/VDC performed a fuel trial on our 2011 F-250 4x4 Crewcab pickup „Lariat‟ running 20” rims and a 3.55 rear diff ratio…..Jim drove the truck from Melbourne to Perth & return and the results were quite astonishing. The GVM of the vehicle is 4536kg and whilst the test was performed without towing a trailer the truck was loaded with extra diesel, urea, spare wheels and tools which took it to an all up weight of 4355kg.

The drive over - Average speed: 108kmh - Average consumption: 11.7litres per 100km - Total diesel cost: $649.00

The drive back - Average speed: 118kmh - Average consumption: 12.3litres per 100km - Total diesel cost: $743.00

Based on the weight/size of the vehicle and an engine which produces 400HP & 1084NM of torque we were very pleased with the results.

As we know results can differ from person to person depending on climate, weather, terrain, speed, weight, and whether you are towing heavy or light. Jim performed this test just for our own knowledge so we can pass on a real life example on what the truck can do based or real driving and not something that has been computer simulated in a testing laboratory.
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